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18 June 2008 @ 12:37 am
No world record today  

Instead of trying to set a world record in the “most stupid world record ever” category, finally bringing software development to the same level as sausages, you can do something useful for your computer: download the latest epiphany package in unstable. Thanks to glandium’s work, it fixes two notable regressions introduced by gecko 1.9, including the removal of the incredibly unusable certificate error page, also known as I want to be as cryptic as IE.

As a side note, after spending a whole sunday trying to fix #393837, without anything remotely looking like success, I’m very happy that the Epiphany developers decided to abandon Gecko. Maybe we will finally have a browser that is usable without needing a herd of maniac cultists to fix a bug. Something they won’t do anyway – they’re too busy downloading the longest sausage in the world.

(Anonymous) on June 17th, 2008 11:19 pm (UTC)
speaking of which, what is the state of epiphany-webkit for regular use?
np237np237 on June 18th, 2008 07:33 am (UTC)
In 2.22, it is more than usable for simple tasks but is still missing a number of features. Some of them are implemented in the libsoup backend of webkit (Debian currently uses the libcurl backend), some are being implemented in Epiphany upstream, and development seems to go on very fast.
(Anonymous) on June 18th, 2008 12:01 am (UTC)
competition is good
I agree, I can't wait for an alternative open source browser, mozilla has been sitting on its a** for way too long, acting like some sort of open source internet explorer (with virtually 100% of the open source market) they need some competition.
Me, I do not like epiphany (too many gnome dependencies) in midori I trust :)

Btw, your post link to the "epiphany" package, a Boulder Dash clone, instead of "epiphany-browser"
ricomaston on October 9th, 2008 02:56 pm (UTC)
IE CAN'T kill off Mozilla as Mozilla is Open Source. In order to get rid of it, you've got to find some way to kill off programmers' desire to program.
(Anonymous) on June 18th, 2008 06:20 am (UTC)
I really feel happy that epiphany will use webkit. Honestly though, I tried epiphany-webkit some time ago, and it had some rendering problems that gecko didn't have... but, well, webkit is a young project AFAICT, so everything's forgivable :)

Keep up the good job, Joss!

(Anonymous) on June 18th, 2008 07:21 am (UTC)
Great job. One problem with epiphany is that it crashes very often, both with and without a flash and this is very, very annoying.
np237np237 on June 18th, 2008 07:35 am (UTC)
Re: thanks
Well, all the crashes that were found so far in 2.22.2-2 are caused either by gecko or by the flash player. Let’s hope we can fix at least the most frequent ones in xulrunner.
trentongodwyn on October 9th, 2008 02:25 pm (UTC)
So, the absolutely most reasonable thing would be to AT LEAST focus all work on making it run on bit systems.
terrellkristen on October 9th, 2008 02:31 pm (UTC)
Epiphany+flash used to be very stable (as in: crash maybe once every months. ) in gutsy and previous releases, and now it crashes *every* day, on of trials (trial = loading a web page containing flash content, be it youtube or something else).
(Anonymous) on June 18th, 2008 11:54 am (UTC)
I don't use Gnome. Installing 95 MB of Gnome packages (nearly a half of which are icons) to use a web browser is just not to my taste. Thanks, but no thanks. Iceweasel is way better for me.